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 TV Writers Vault prexy Scott Manville wants to know. Lets hear it people! If you've had projects reviewed by execs, made contact with producers via the TV Writers Vault, or Optioned your project, then raise the flag and let others know its possible. The TV Writers Vault takes no financial participation in any sale, and we rely solely on positive testimonials to keep projects being delivered to the Producers who are scouting them in our database. If you've got a rant, then lay it out there, and let me know how we can improve our service. Here's a peek at what our Writers and Execs have to say.
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 I'm really liking the executive interviews at TV Writers Vault. Keep up the good work.
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Well I learned this evening that one of my treatments is under review and I'm pretty jazzed!  I just posted it recently so I was pleasantly surprised. Thank you Scott & TV Writers Vault!!
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I'v gotten several reviews. Just don't know how much time passes between a review and a potential contact with a production company.
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This is Celestine Epps, i have a brilliant idea for a story/script/movie/series, but i do not feel i should have to pay someone to help me make it work, when in the end they are going to make BIG off it! Nothing is free anymore...and that's the sad part. Thing is...i know this story would sell, because it has everything...i mean everything in it for everyone...and its a "must watcher" because you find out in the end why...but when it is a series not every episode is going to end the same, but they will all lead you somewhere. Scott_Manville wrote: TV Writers Vault prexy Scott Manville wants to know. Lets hear it people! If you've had projects reviewed by execs, made contact with producers via the TV Writers Vault, or Optioned your project, then raise the flag and let others know its possible. The TV Writers Vault takes no financial participation in any sale, and we rely solely on positive testimonials to keep projects being delivered to the Producers who are scouting them in our database. If you've got a rant, then lay it out there, and let me know how we can improve our service. Here's a peek at what our Writers and Execs have to say.
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Guest wrote:This is Celestine Epps, i have a brilliant idea for a story/script/movie/series, but i do not feel i should have to pay someone to help me make it work, when in the end they are going to make BIG off it! Nothing is free anymore...and that's the sad part. Hello Celestine - Perhaps I can help you understand why we charge a nominal fee to use our marketplace for pitching your television projects and scripts. We are a business that involves marketing to the industry ($), programmers to develop and maintain the site and database($), administrative work involved in communications and handling all of the business related to the site($), along with a list of other investments of time and finance. Its like any other business. In parallel to that, we take no financial participation for any project sold or produced. Agents will take ten percent off the top, and any other entity who is involved in connecting your project to a distributor will most likely take a gross cut as a producer. Its also important to know that the entertainment industry is a free market, and you can use any means to pitch your projects. Knowing that its an extremely difficult process to find contacts and companies to take unsolicited submissions, many people feel our service holds unique value.
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Just to add as a newbie, I think that many people beleive they have "the story" but really don't. If you think you do then get it sold and come back here and let us know how easy it was for you to sell it.
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bidhounds wrote:I'v gotten several reviews. Just don't know how much time passes between a review and a potential contact with a production company. Hi Bidhounds! Its hard to say, but in general, if a producer is interested in the project they usually make the request immediately or within a few days. If they have it tagged "under consideration", then many do revisit the project. Its very subjective, and dependent on the executive's priorities and follow-through. Overall, they usually know what they like when they see it. That's my best shot at explaining the unexplainable
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Here's what I have noticed with the projects I've posted and I've posted plenty. When they are first posted, they get some looks by producers, but after the first month or so, they no longer get any looks. To me, it appears that older postings get displaced by newer postings so when producers go looking, they have to pass through all the newer stuff before getting to the older postings. Although my postings may be good for 6 months or so, in reality, it appears to be only viable for a month.
There needs to be a way to get older postings moved up to be viewed along with the newer postings.
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Guest wrote: There needs to be a way to get older postings moved up to be viewed along with the newer postings.
Here's what I can tell you about how the projects are exposed to the executives. The best, and only way to keep balance of exposure, was for our programmers to have each executives viewing and actions exclusive to their use, meaning...for each individual executive who logs in to scout, once they click a title for review, it moves that title to their own project management area where they can reference old reviews, or projects they've tagged "under consideration" or "requesting contact". As they review titles, and those titles moving out of the way in the main genre listing, any project that hasn't been reviewed remains visible toward the top of the list, specific to that executive's activity. So, as you mention, a project may move down its own genre list as new projects are registered, BUT as executives review projects that are newer, that older project actually begins to move up the list. And believe me, there are a multitude of more project reviews (with all execs combined) than there are projects. With close to 250 executives scouting, any project title may have a great variety of actual positioning in their genre list, as a result of each specific executive's search activity. You may have received action early in the running, but you have to know that its a subjective process, and if they don't like your title, they aren't going to feel compelled to review it. We've had writers sell projects that were in the database for longer than six months, just as we have those who sold a project that was posted for only an hour.
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Scott, your last posting was very helpful. It's always good to know some of the workings in any "black box" you work with, and knowing something about what the execs see here informs our understanding of "the process". Thanks.
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Guest wrote:Here's what I have noticed with the projects I've posted and I've posted plenty. When they are first posted, they get some looks by producers, but after the first month or so, they no longer get any looks. To me, it appears that older postings get displaced by newer postings so when producers go looking, they have to pass through all the newer stuff before getting to the older postings. Although my postings may be good for 6 months or so, in reality, it appears to be only viable for a month.
There needs to be a way to get older postings moved up to be viewed along with the newer postings. This is exactly how i feel too. I know that maybe my posting is easy to locate for the exec that has already reviewed the treatment... but what about the execs looking TODAY. My year date is coming up next month, and i'm trying to justify renewing it... but i got constant looks the first 3-4 months... then nothing. And i just can't help but wonder if that is because my treatment is SO buried by now that new people wouldn't ever see it. Because i'm sure the people scouting this site are not going to do HOURS worth of searching.... and not knowing where my project stands for them is upsetting. I'm not sure yet whether or not i'm going to renew, i just wish there was a way to be sure that my posting MINIMUMLY every 2-3 months ended up much higher up in the food chain then potentially buried by all the new submissions.
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Guest wrote:Guest wrote:Here's what I have noticed with the projects I've posted and I've posted plenty. When they are first posted, they get some looks by producers, but after the first month or so, they no longer get any looks. To me, it appears that older postings get displaced by newer postings so when producers go looking, they have to pass through all the newer stuff before getting to the older postings. Although my postings may be good for 6 months or so, in reality, it appears to be only viable for a month.
There needs to be a way to get older postings moved up to be viewed along with the newer postings. This is exactly how i feel too. I know that maybe my posting is easy to locate for the exec that has already reviewed the treatment... but what about the execs looking TODAY. My year date is coming up next month, and i'm trying to justify renewing it... but i got constant looks the first 3-4 months... then nothing. And i just can't help but wonder if that is because my treatment is SO buried by now that new people wouldn't ever see it. Because i'm sure the people scouting this site are not going to do HOURS worth of searching.... and not knowing where my project stands for them is upsetting. I'm not sure yet whether or not i'm going to renew, i just wish there was a way to be sure that my posting MINIMUMLY every 2-3 months ended up much higher up in the food chain then potentially buried by all the new submissions. Just quoting the explaination of Title Exposure... "...as executives review projects that are newer, that older project actually begins to move up the list. And believe me, there are a multitude of more project reviews (with all execs combined) than there are projects. With close to 250 executives scouting, any project title may have a great variety of actual positioning in their genre list, as a result of each specific executive's search activity. You may have received action early in the running, but you have to know that its a subjective process, and if they don't like your title, they aren't going to feel compelled to review it. We've had writers sell projects that were in the database for longer than six months, just as we have those who sold a project that was posted for only an hour."
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I posted a project and within days I was informed that a producer was requesting writer contact. How long does it take before they contact you.
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I've been doing a lot of reading concerning new folks who are creators of tv reality concepts. It sounds like there is no money in this industry for a new person. For instance, if you actually option a deal it sounds like you may be forced to accept nothing just to see it move forward. Then, if a studio wants to pick it up you may receive $20k as a purchase. After that you get 2-5% (maybe) of the overall budget. You may be lucky if you make $20k on your idea. An idea out of millions. Can someone give me the upside to keep me motivated. Thanks
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Around the 2nd of February 2010 i added my first Reality Series show to the "tv writers vault" on February 08, 2010 it had "status: Reviewed" By a Production company.
On February 13, 2010 i added a second Reality Show to the "tv writers vault"
on February 16, 2010 i had another "Status: Reviewed" by another Production company.
Just a few days ago i added a third show to the "tv writers vault" this time it's a Sitcom that should turn some heads, So will see what happens down this lonely road we all take. Last but not least, i'd like to wish all the writers here on "TV Writers Vault" the best of luck in 2010.
Tandy Williamson
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Guest wrote:I've been doing a lot of reading concerning new folks who are creators of tv reality concepts. It sounds like there is no money in this industry for a new person. For instance, if you actually option a deal it sounds like you may be forced to accept nothing just to see it move forward. Then, if a studio wants to pick it up you may receive $20k as a purchase. After that you get 2-5% (maybe) of the overall budget. You may be lucky if you make $20k on your idea. An idea out of millions. Can someone give me the upside to keep me motivated. Thanks In a typical deal, you'd receive 2-5% all licensing and fees from the production company's side (not budget), a "created by" credit and per episode fees, and a "producer" credit and applicable per episode fee. If a show is a success, you can make terrific money. Network pays more than cable network, and primetime pays more than daytime. In the end, its like any industry, you have to build a career to have more leverage in negotiating. Nobody gets rich quick, and a lot of deals are made, and a lot of shows produced. Not one in a million.
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Guest wrote:Around the 2nd of February 2010 i added my first Reality Series show to the "tv writers vault" on February 08, 2010 it had "status: Reviewed" By a Production company.
On February 13, 2010 i added a second Reality Show to the "tv writers vault"
on February 16, 2010 i had another "Status: Reviewed" by another Production company.
Just a few days ago i added a third show to the "tv writers vault" this time it's a Sitcom that should turn some heads, So will see what happens down this lonely road we all take. Last but not least, i'd like to wish all the writers here on "TV Writers Vault" the best of luck in 2010.
Tandy Williamson
That's great you're getting some good activity, Tandy. Hope the right company connects.
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Scott_Manville wrote:Guest wrote:I've been doing a lot of reading concerning new folks who are creators of tv reality concepts. It sounds like there is no money in this industry for a new person. For instance, if you actually option a deal it sounds like you may be forced to accept nothing just to see it move forward. Then, if a studio wants to pick it up you may receive $20k as a purchase. After that you get 2-5% (maybe) of the overall budget. You may be lucky if you make $20k on your idea. An idea out of millions. Can someone give me the upside to keep me motivated. Thanks In a typical deal, you'd receive 2-5% all licensing and fees from the production company's side (not budget), a "created by" credit and per episode fees, and a "producer" credit and applicable per episode fee. If a show is a success, you can make terrific money. Network pays more than cable network, and primetime pays more than daytime. In the end, its like any industry, you have to build a career to have more leverage in negotiating. Nobody gets rich quick, and a lot of deals are made, and a lot of shows produced. Not one in a million. thanks Scott
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i posted a project on February 15th and saw that a production company requested writer contact on the 19th. How long does it take before the production company contacts you?
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mikejfinch wrote:i posted a project on February 15th and saw that a production company requested writer contact on the 19th. How long does it take before the production company contacts you? I'll follow up on that. Typically they'll contact you immediately, but there's always a chance they push it asside due to other priorities. A reminder won't hurt. I'll take care of that. Community Forum Admin The Television Writers Vault Visit Our Marketplace to Pitch Your TV Show Concepts
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admin wrote:mikejfinch wrote:i posted a project on February 15th and saw that a production company requested writer contact on the 19th. How long does it take before the production company contacts you? I'll follow up on that. Typically they'll contact you immediately, but there's always a chance they push it asside due to other priorities. A reminder won't hurt. I'll take care of that. thanks for looking into the matter.
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